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Amie Warrenposted eleven years ago
Are we too dependent on expertise? Cashiers now can’t even rely back change with out a computer telling them how a lot it is. Went to a restaurant and they would not serve me as a result of their computer systems have been down. Severely. They may not even open the registers.
Computers are gathering increasingly information on us on a daily basis. Google reportedly has a facility on the grounds of the NSA (I have not explored this, so I do not know if it’s true).
While you use your credit score or debit card, there is a record of every thing you spend on, what you eat, what you wear, what you watch. T.V. providers keep a file of each present you watch so they can serve you up commercials.
Now there’s going to be a database of each physician you go to, every pill you are taking, each illness you ever had, all supplied to insurers, who can then deny you protection.
I personally have began dealing solely in money and refusing to go to doctors unless I am so sick I can not operate. I get more paranoid daily.
Do not actually consider in Devil, per se, but I do imagine in evil, and with the Microsofts, Googles, Yahoos, and Facebooks of the world holding all of our particulars of their palms, how lengthy will it be until they begin using it in opposition to us? People are already denied job that have nothing to do with dealing with money based on their credit score scores. How lengthy will it be till we can’t be employed unless we have now good health and perfect financial liquidity?
It is all very frightening, if you consider it.
schoolgirlforreal posted eleven years agoin reply to this
my only comment is some folks (my cat has a chip in it after I acquired it) have gotten chips the size of a rice grain in thier body to be situated
How lengthy will or not it’s earlier than all of us are nearly compelled to get a chip w/ a # within the brow or wrist???? It is foretold in Revelation or Acoplapse!!!
Ready to be a maytry? taking the chip means you’re taking the mark of the beast!!
as the bible says:
This explains the lack of information sought by many believers! So it’s better to not have knowledge, huh?
Stevennix2001 posted 11 years agoin reply to this
i by no means mentioned that both. data is available in many different methods.
mom101 posted eleven years agoin reply to this
Ami warren. How did you get into my head? I’ve been asking the EXACT question for a long whereas. Almost with the exact phrases as you have described.
Before I clarify why I really feel so, I’ll answer your query. Indubitably, technology, we are so to dependent upon it.
To a lot of anything can be a bad thing. I personally know a lady, who after 6 years of college, cannot make change for a dollar. What is her job at the moment? She simply retired from the native dhs. Full benefits and all. (That little piece of paper, and hey, I know it value a lot of money to get it, somehow makes people a lot smarter than those that wouldn’t have it. )Proper now, she has a pleasant retirement test, insurance, her hubby has a pleasant income, they adopted a boy who has some mental issues and receives a test for that. They dwell in a very good house. But, for some purpose, they do not know easy methods to handle money. They have hassle assembly the only expense they have other than utilities and many others.
Computers. Are we being monitored? You higher comprehend it. Does that make you happy? Ever wonder why we now have to make use of a digital converter box with a view to get local channels?
I do know the place you’re coming from in regards to the dr thing. I am virtually prepared to hitch you in the money thing. Particularly because the card companies (not just bank cards either) can maintain you liable for the first 50 of a transaction. Doctors, back then, got paid with hen, eggs, whatever. And they traveled door to door to ensure their patients were in addition to they may very well be. In the present day, it is greed that directs the medical field.
Please don’t inform your self you’re paranoid. As an alternative pat yourself on being alert.
Satan, evil, pretty much the identical thing. You ask how lengthy will it be earlier than they begin using know-how in opposition to us? Properly, they’ve been doing that for some time already. Right here is an instance. I reside in Tn. Mostly farmland. Many households have been compelled off of their land that they had raised their families, and the one life they had ever identified. They did not have money…..A giant firm came by and go determine they wished the land. They compelled the individuals away gave them a dollar or 2. Nowhere near what the land was worth to them.; But why did they do it? Oh now that land holds loads of multi million greenback homes……..
Oh I do know I will probably get loads of hate responses to this put up. But, as I see it, it is the chilly exhausting reality.
We, as a whole, have to find our way again to, the fundamentals.
Amie Warrenposted eleven years agoin reply to this
I used to dwell in FL, and they have finished the same factor down right here. Did you ever read about Donald Trump making an attempt to take away an outdated lady’s home in Atlantic City by eminent area to build a parking zone? It was the last actual house there, and an 80 year old girl lived in it. Town gave him the suitable to throw her out and tear it down, but the public backlash was so strong, he didn’t.
But Karma will prevail. When she died, he tore the home down, constructed his parking garage. Now all his casinos in Atlantic Metropolis are going broke.
Big firms, banks, insurance coverage companies, chickens, eggs, Donald Trump, previous girls’ losing their properties, eminent domain – anything or anyone else?
Nobody has to shop with plastic cards if they don’t need to (so no person has to get no matter “information” anyone collects from them on file). No one has to do a lot of anything on the Internet if he does not wish to, or individuals will be cautious about what they do do. If banks or firms are getting uncontrolled with the use of new know-how, then it’s time to think about new laws to do a little regulating; or else it is time to cease being the customer of the biggest locations and look for smaller companies/banks. Individuals invented expertise. Folks select to use it or not. People who have reason to maintain things up and operating (like electrical energy, transit, etc.) (and just about all folks do have that purpose, including the federal government and businesses), will work on methods to verify they do. Individuals preserve adjusting to whatever comes alongside. (Now, for instance, there are those pay as you go debit playing cards for purchases. The particular person with a kind of who makes use of it at a retailer leaves no report of what he is bought – comfort, no worrying about carrying money, AND privateness. New things come out to handle new issues and meet new needs across the entire society.
There have always been “financial bullies”. There has always been corruption and greed. There has always been being underneath-handed or profiting from the much less powerful. Separate downside. Safeguarding towards companies utilizing know-how for such purposes – separate drawback once more. There are things individuals can do to protect themselves. If know-how “goes out” firms will not be able to use it any longer, will they? If individuals are doing things beneath-handed, that’s a problem to be solved by someone within the place to do it (and sometimes that could be the individuals, themselves).
(And what has the particular person with the degree and no job have to do with expertise? The world is filled with well educated people who DO have jobs, whether or not or not they were educated in the technological era. Some people can’t get jobs. It occurs. ) This thread kind of offers off the vibe that a few persons are just sort of mad about a whole of issues and people and are using this thread as an excuse to bring all those things and other people up.
the thing thats humorous about this, is i am actually watching a movie by which a loopy homeless woman just stated that computer systems belong to “the beast”. recover from it dude.
paarsurrey posted eleven years agoin reply to this
You do not consider in Satan; so how may you say Know-how is Devil or evil?
Why you believe in evil? Please
Ohma posted eleven years have a peek at this website agoin reply to this
As a lot as I often strive very laborious to read by a whole thread earlier than I post I just couldn’t get the OP.
First as a member of the service business I feel you assume a lot relating to why you weren’t served by the restaurant whose computers the place down. because of my information of this business I can assure you that the issue was in all probability not that the cashier did not know find out how to rely change and was more probably related to company coverage concerning stock tracking.
Second and forgive me if this oh to apparent has already been pointed out but when technology is so evil why are you using the internet? why do you even personal a computer much less have one hooked up to the WWW? Nothing about your OP makes any sense to me.
thisisoli posted eleven years agoin reply to this
There was a database recording your illnesses for years, everytime you sign up to insurance coverage they may ask permission to access it.
And fairly quickly within the US insurance coverage firms will be unable to refuse entry due to past conditions.
Beelzedad posted eleven years agoin reply to this
I might supply the names of some doctors who could enable you to along with your paranoia of medical doctors.
wildorangeflower posted eleven years agoin reply to this
There’s a worth for expertise, we are our own selves to be blamed if we screw on the advantages of know-how.
Could be.
Satan is, in any case, the prince of the ability of the air. And it is by means of “the air” that a lot techology is unfold, and much information including twisted knowledge.
And it feeds people’s undue egos.
There’s little honor hooked up to being “simply” a farmer or just a particular person trying to make a living today; we’re all advised we must always attempt to be “higher” and that we even deserve “higher”. And where does that depart the exhausting-working man or woman who IS the backbone of our society??
skyfire posted eleven years agoin reply to this
Technology has nothing to do with that. It’s due to population. Extra the inhabitants, less the attention people get towards their life and so they find yourself focusing more on survival. For assets now we have to battle with every and the rationale behind it’s elevated population. Holding non secular things aside think about it for a minute. People born in 1940’s and 50’s struggled less compared to what present youth is facing for the survival.
mom101 posted eleven years agoin reply to this
skyfire, though I used to be not alive in either of the 40s or 50s, I did have grandparents who were raising 8 youngsters throughout that point. You may not be more wrong. Effectively. possibly not. They might rise up at sun-up, and do their chores, backyard, feed/water livestock and so on before they ate breakfast. The children, would put in a good half days work before eating breakfast let alone going to highschool, which they had to stroll to. Resources? They did not have the posh of moving a water faucet to get water, or the luxury of turning opening a microwave oven door to warmth one thing up to eat, (many in the 40s n 50s needed to lower and break up wooden to use in the wood cook dinner stove that was used to cook meals.) They didn’t have fridges to keep their food at correct temperatures. They had to can the meals they raised.Thery did not have food stamps;. trendy medicine, etc. But, the things that todays youth are lacking out on is survival expertise, common sense, household values and many others. The people of in the past had been a lot stronger, and I dont imply bodily than in contrast with todays generation. Oh, I might go on and on with comparisons. However I believe you get my which means.
Amie Warrenposted eleven years agoin reply to this
The story I heard is that Devil only wished one power, and that was the power of discouragement, as a result of with that, he might rule the world.
wilderness posted eleven years agoin reply to this
I believe you’re really grasping here, Brenda. Data strikes by the air, by space, wooden, brick and concrete. It moves via copper wires and glass tubes. It strikes by way of empty area and even via the organic nervous tissue of your physique.
speaking of ‘twisted data;…
so, what, only farmers and individuals who do manual labor are laborious-working and contribute to the betterment of society?
i hate to break the information to you, however farmers and other ‘spine’ members of society use applied sciences in their lives. you make them sound like a bunch of ignorant hayseeds.
AdsenseStrategies posted eleven years agoin reply to this
Mmmm, you increase a good point. I still have to agree along with her when she implies that farmers, fishery staff etc, are regarded down on or made a goal of ridicule. This is at the least true, it appears to me, in the countries I am aware of, (maybe not in the US?)
Ah yes, the outdated “technology is evil” supposition! If you verify, you’ll find those who suppose so are very selective by which technology they say is evil! As long as they use or want it it is high-quality, but when it goes against their beliefs, it’s evil!
Amie Warrenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
I need the internet to make a dwelling, and I live in fear that if I turn out to be dependent on it for my livelihood, that it’s going to disappear, and where will we all be?
So I additionally develop my own meals, and save every penny I can get my fingers on…just in case.
Yeah, appears like paranoia.
Being a farmer and a survival professional, I too am prepared for the worst, even though I doubt it would ever get that bad! But who is aware of? Some of us like to review survival techniques for the sake of information and for the safety this data brings to us!
mom101 posted 11 years agoin reply to this
randy, survival abilities, in todays teens eyes, that would sound so lame. But to you and I, we see it for what it’s, crucial.
Todays youth are being taught all the pieces they should know BESIDES the way to survive in a disaster. Do disasters happen, some would ask.
Look around. You inform me.
Solely in some teen’s eyes, after all! Some are very fascinated within the historical ways of survival. Sure, there are lots who aren’t fascinated within the least, however it has all the time been this manner!
Ah, however have you ever seen the programme in regards to the web that I saw just a few months back – all the pieces a person ever searches for on the internet is stored, and as an experiment on this programme they took random search history from Google headquarters to see if they may use it to trace the exact person – they succeeded and went knocking at her door….
That doesn’t hassle me personally, the benefits of the web far outweigh the disadvantages for me.
Amie Warrenposted eleven years agoin reply to this
Google has already admitted that they will present the U.S. Government with whatever info it wants without a warrant. Now THAT is frightening.
Contemplating all the ways through which technology saves lives, protects lives, makes actual scientific information potential, can keep people nearer collectively, and any variety of different significant and optimistic methods wherein expertise has improved high quality of life, understanding it, and understanding the Earth and Universe; I’d say that a restaurant particular person’s not with the ability to open a cash drawer is a pretty minor thing.
Perhaps, as an alternative, (if there were a Satan at all), it’s work would be to make folks feel progress and technology and make them want to return to a time when people lived in so much more ignorance than they do immediately, and when there was nothing anybody could do about illnesses, situations, injuries that today are curable (or at the victims are capable of be helped by expertise ultimately).
If you already know what you’re doing on this life you may have know-how AND still have family values, common sense, and any number of other desirable traits/behaviors.
mom101 posted 11 years agoin reply to this
That might be superb. However look at who or what controls this know-how.
kirstenblog posted 11 years agoin reply to this
Do you suppose that by removing expertise that these folks could be unable to do anything ‘evil’?
Far as I can tell individuals looking to trigger harm and grief for private acquire have managed to do it via out history, long before any of what we consider as know-how.
Individuals who thrive on struggling or have worry fueled greed will all the time be an issue, with or without technology.
Sure have a look at that. The reply?
We do!
As the previous dishwasher add used to say “Your fingers are soaking in it!”
Amie Warrenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
Do you understand what you simply mentioned? We are depending on know-how for all of that. What if it was abruptly gone, or you could not get access to it? It is already being achieved by insurance coverage corporations and docs refusing the latest (and costliest) technology to help individuals who cannot afford to pay for it.
And what does that should do with household values, common sense, and different desireable traits/behaviors? We’re not talking about how YOU management technology, we’re speaking about how technology controls YOU.
I don’t find out about anybody else, but I greater than understand what I just mentioned. If something had been to occur that know-how wasn’t accessible (or working) we’d all do the subsequent factor, the identical method we do when there’s a hurricane or other devastating pure catastrophe. Within the meantime, it is up and working and never likely to go anywhere. Whether or not insurance corporations make selections about who will get what remedy (technological or in any other case) is a separate matter. That is not about expertise. That is in regards to the heatlhcare system and insurance coverage companies. Apart from, simply because something is available would not assure that everyone can afford it. I’m not saying that money ought to resolve who will get what treatment; but it does. Money decides who gets the best home, the perfect colleges for their youngsters, and so forth. and so on. Again, all separate points not related to the position of “Devil” and know-how.
Know-how does not control me. It has an effect on my life, yes. If the restaurant person cannot open that cash drawer, then it appears to be like like I must go residence and get a peanut-butter sandwich (or one thing). It is up to me to make sure I’ve some dry items in my dwelling, in case there’s some natural catastrophe or some widespread situation with cash machines.
Within the meantime, I didn’t must let my youngsters play with video video games after they have been 4. I haven’t got to use speed dial on my cell phone as a result of I imagine I’d reasonably attempt to keep my brain active and exercised by remembering my very own youngsters’ cellphone numbers. I don’t have to make use of any of the technology out there if I don’t wish to. I am completely happy that expertise has achieved what it has in drugs and science, and I’m even proud of the truth that most of the time I can go to an ATM and get money. I remember the times when I had to have two checking accounts – one with a financial institution near work (as a result of the banks all closed before I could home, and one with a financial institution in my town, as a result of the banks had brief hours, and I wanted to sleep late on Saturday mornings.
People who have “family values” and customary sense and whatever different constructive traits there are do not/will not let know-how change that. They will raise their youngsters with the same values, put them to mattress on school nights at a good hour, restrict how a lot television they watch or how much time (if any) they spend on the PC or Internet. Having been raised earlier than expertise got here into the full swing it is in now, and having had my very own kids after it; there may be little difference between the values I learned and the values I taught my very own kids.
So, if I am going to the ATM and discover out the network is down I don’t see that as huge factor in my life. If I’m good I’ll be sure I hold a bit cash somewhere anyway. Sure, we’re dependent on know-how for issues like medical procedures, communications, or whatever else we’re; but it has so vastly improved all of those issues I do not see it as a nasty factor. If something happens that that stuff is not out there we’ll determine a method to stay with that, the identical means we lived with earlier than expertise was around.
I had the advantage of figuring out a world that had little or no expertise. I don’t see it as a “massive, scary, thing” that plays more of a job in my life (or anyone’s else’s) than it does. If the lights all go out, all of us carry out the turbines. I additionally don’ t see it as “a god” and I do not see it as something folks cannot dwell with out. Would it not be inconvenient if “expertise went out”? Certain, however individuals would deliver out the bikes and the candles and the stamps and envelopes and do these the same means they did them earlier than expertise. Sure, everybody might fake we don’t know about expertise, do away with all of it, and return the days when hospitals and banks did not use expertise; however what on Earth can be the purpose of that? We might as effectively take our chances, be pleased with advances which have been in technology, and know we are able to cope with it if anything had been to happen to it.
Individuals of the previous had been “managed” by the things that know-how has since helped eliminate. One way or one other, there are times when individuals don’t have management over their lives. Which may be due to earthquakes or hurricanes. It might be due to some giant power outage. None of that sort of stuff is nice, but why make concern of losing technology the biggest one? Possibly individuals of a era that doesn’t know life without technology are more likely to be afraid of shedding it, but mankind and the world existed and functioned long earlier than technology ever confirmed up on the scene.
You recognize what happens if the facility goes on in the control towers at airports? The planes don’t fly. You already know what happens if the planes don’t fly? Somebody can’t take his journey. You realize what happened within the 1800’s when someone may take a trip to get someplace quick sufficient? They did not go. It was lack of know-how that controlled the situation then, and it will be lack of know-how that may management it now. People should be grateful for the expertise that makes life higher now, however they should also understand that the world and other people have functioned lengthy before anyone got here up with it. As I mentioned, I perceive precisely what I mentioned.
Richieb799 posted 11 years agoin reply to this
Expertise can do numerous issues to help mankind however plenty of issues being manufactured are not for the pursuit of knowledge however are the pursuit of trivia( to drive the economic system and feed individuals lust for pleasure)
kirstenblog posted 11 years ago
Technology will not be evil no is every other inanimate sort object, its the individuals and uses they give you for technology or no matter that can be evil, use anything to an evil intent and its you thats evil not the thing you utilize. After all you do not have to use the phrase evil in case you do not hold with spiritual concepts, name it damaging and its the identical. Use one thing with the intent of being destructive to others and its you thats damaging not the factor, expertise or in any other case
The satan doesn’t make us do ‘it’, our personal week, fearful and grasping natures make us do ‘it’ and no satan exists to be our scapegoat. We’re liable for ourselves, period.
Alright I’ll get off my cleaning soap field now and go think about dinner and stress-free
worry greed weak. additionally inanimate
I as soon as had an evil eight observe stereo.
Generally the tune would cease and the track would change and start up again.
It was of the satan.
Ever strive taking part in it backwards?
I wager there was some form of subliminal message, certain!
You sure you are not underneath some diabolical control?
music is the satan!
just kidding. idk if i believe that. no offense, to you as your entitled to your opinion. nonetheless i think individuals hear what they wish to hear when doing that. you hear satan saying subliminal messages whereas i hear nothing however noise.
sorry. simply food for thought there.
You have to be very very younger.
That was a joke.
Ask your parents about eight tracks, they may probably understand.
really, who do you assume taught me that knowledge?
besides, you make it sound, as if im some kind of kid.
My outdated LP’s and 45’s were all scratchy. Do you think Devil did that?
Poor Devil! He will get blamed for every part!
Inform me about it!
But then again the choice would be to be liable for ourselves and each other, and thats just unthinkable!
waynet posted eleven years agoin reply to this
I had a cat called Devil…..poor kitty, shouldn’t have bought him that apple pc on the turn of the 00’s as he could have contributed to the world being destroyed!
LOL
paradigmsearch posted eleven years in the past
Thus far know-how has been good to us. Just the medical alone substantiates that.
I am involved, nevertheless, of a 10% likelihood over the subsequent 50 years or so of one or more of the next:
The fallacious individual will get their hands on The Button.
A medical virus experiment goes awry and/or gets unfastened.
A genetics experiment goes awry.
A quantum physics experiment has an unintended outcome.
Our worldwide, internetworked laptop dependent society does indeed expertise a protracted period collapse as the results of an unrecoverable pc glitch/hack.
We discover the best way to do one thing that was best left undiscovered.
There are little doubt many extra examples (aka booby traps) on the market that almost all of us do not even find out about.
(Observe: This submit was made by a tech individual no less.)
Amie Warrenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
“We discover the right way to do something that was finest left undiscovered.”
I think individuals who write malicious viruses have already achieved that.
paradigmsearch posted 11 years agoin reply to this
True. And they have created actually evil manmade medical viruses as effectively; enhanced smallpox, anthrax, Ebola, and many others. And, of course, the ever well-liked nuclear gadgets as nicely.
What I used to be referring to in my earlier post was of an entirely totally different order of magnitude. For instance: think about the nuclear explosion matter-to-vitality conversion as X. A fusion vitality experiment may very properly result within the discovery†of a 10000X version of that. The good news is that there would solely be one such discoveryâ€; since none of us would be around to do a second one.
Have a nice day.
That’s what I am afraid of.
Yep, one experiment gone improper, and goodbye human race.
rb11 posted 11 years in the past
Know-how falls into the same class as money. Money is the root of all evil, It isn’t the money itself that’s evil, but what individuals do for it.
As is a knife, one person makes meals and feeds individuals utilizing it, one other will kill people with it, the knife is just along for the journey.
passthejelly posted 11 years in the past
Know-how drives effectivity. With out expertise society would have suffered a great stagnation. It’s nice that simple tasks might be made simpler by nice developments in know-how.
Amie Warrenposted eleven years agoin reply to this
Very naive evaluation, IMHO. Expertise has destroyed more jobs than it has created. A machine can do the work of extra people, so these individuals are not needed anymore.
I as soon as worked for a lawyer who needed a two hour job performed in half-hour. I informed him I could not do it in 30 minutes, and he stated “Cannot you just put it into the pc?” I mentioned, “Sure, but I only kind 90 phrases a minute, and I still must kind it in, you must edit it, and I have to make the corrections, then print it, copy it, and assemble it. THAT will take two hours.” Individuals do not understand that WE should not machines, and machines still require human interplay to work.
mom101 posted eleven years agoin reply to this
amie, gotta run just a few errands. This is a great forum thought. You grasp in there. Do not let others discuss you into the concept that you’re just paranoid. You are not. As an alternative you might be involved. With superb cause.
I used to be, at first, shocked that someone was considering the exact same factor as me. But, you realize, karma, it has a manner of getting the message out.
Sure, know-how has some excellent points, however, as you just pointed out, it takes human data to do the enter into the computer systems.
If a family is happening a trip, and the 2 kids within the back seat are arguing, he hit me/no she hit me……the mother and father scold each to appropriate the scenario. Certain they could should be quiet for awhile, but greater than seemingly, they will arrive at their destination at the least a bit extra safely. (You already know, the driver would possibly simply be capable of focus on driving).
However, as all the time, there is and all the time can be opposing opinions.
Good talking with you.
wilderness posted 11 years agoin reply to this
Amie, that can be stated of each device ever invented, from chipped stone arrow heads on.
Know-how doesn’t destroy jobs; it changes them to something extra productive. One farmer can now feed one hundred people, but somebody makes his tractor, refines his gasoline, and makes fertilizer and water pumps for the crops.
Technology really increases numbers of jobs, simply totally different ones than we’re used to. It also will increase productivity to what would have been unbelievable levels just a few years ago. My spouse packaged laptop chips for delivery, and I am an electrician, wiring colleges and businesses. 30 years in the past her job was non-existent, and a hundred years ago so was mine. On the identical time latest improvements have made me far more productive than my predecessor solely a decade or two in the past. It is a altering world, at all times.
Amie Warrenposted eleven years agoin reply to this
“The manufacturing facility of the long run can have only two employees, a person and a dog. The person will be there to feed the dog. The canine might be there to maintain the person from touching the gear.” ~Warren G. Bennis
Really, I do perceive your level and concern. But…
Who constructed the manufacturing facility?
Who made the equipment?
Who repairs the equipment?
Who provides substitute or completely different equipment?
Who sells the production of the manufacturing facility?
Who provides security, both physical and digital?
The list goes on and on.
Different men with other dogs? LOL!
Good point, though.
passthejelly posted eleven years agoin reply to this
I find it amusing how the person utilizing Hubpages, the Web, and a pc to publish in a web-based discussion board is so anti-know-how. Amie, Just the truth that you might be here makes you a hypocrite.
Amie Warrenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
It is advisable relax. Personal assaults aren’t essential right here. It is only a question posed to begin a discussion. Do not take issues so seriously, particularly not what you read online.
Go have a beer.
In one breath you mentioned expertise has taken away extra jobs. In another, you mentioned that machines aren’t folks, and people are wanted. There’s at all times been adjustments in how work is finished. Women of my grandmother’s technology did issues like absorb sewing or exit and clear houses to make extra money. Young moms today can write online, have a web site, or exit in work in a cushty workplace just a few hours a week. My mother used to start out dinner at – like – 2 in the afternoon with the intention to get a meat-and-potato meal for my father (and us) ready by 5:00. Somewhere alongside the way in which people now not required hours to get dinner prepared, and instead may spend time with their children (or work in an workplace) or whatever. Change is nice.
Amie Warrenposted eleven years agoin reply to this
You understand what? Those self same individuals who have all that time to spend with their kids DON’T. They stick their kids down in entrance of video video games whereas they go onto Facebook or Twitter, or this discussion board. My mom spent HEAPS of time with me, despite the fact that we didn’t have lots of technological devices. She taught me to learn, to write, to play piano, to embroider, to crochet, to quilt, to cook dinner, to sew, to build a fort, to grow a garden. My dad taught me to play baseball, to swim, to make a tire and twine swing, to fly a kite, and to build an superior sand fort, and personally walked me to every new college I went to (which was quite a bit) on the primary day of faculty. He helped me build my science projects too.
If my mother hadn’t had to cook dinner, I would have been fed quick food and by no means discovered to cook dinner. If we had had money for fancy garments, I would have never realized to sew. If we had been wealthier, I might not know the way to develop my own meals.
Parents spend time with their youngsters as a result of they NEED TO, after all they must do. Mother and father who wish to be with their children make every thing they do into a chance to spend time with them.
My sister is a lawyer. She works 60 hours every week, however she spends each different second she has doing things together with her youngsters. Oh, and he or she cooks all her own meals too, plus retains her own house and does all their laundry, and so forth. She has two of the perfect behaved children I have ever seen, because they don’t need to vie for her attention. They know that when she shouldn’t be working, she might be with them. I really admire her. I am unable to have youngsters, however I spend as much time as I can together with her and her kids, as a result of it is just magical.
IntimatEvolution posted eleven years ago
“Are we too depending on technology? Cashiers now cannot even rely again change without a computer telling them how much it is. Went to a restaurant and they’d not serve me because their computer systems were down. Significantly. They might not even open the registers.”
You do notice this has NOTHING to do with Devil? Please tell me you know this because……….., that is fairly out there.
Amie Warrenposted eleven years agoin reply to this
There is a quote from somebody that claims something like “Technology is Devil’s Approach of Destroying the World”. I can not keep in mind the precise words, or who said it. I assumed everyone had heard that line. Sorry if I confused you.
Thank God.
Although I am unable to let you know how relieved I am.
mom101 posted eleven years agoin reply to this
Excuse me. It does have every little thing to do with evil, doubt, no matter label you select.
That is the 12 months 2010. We’re accustomed to money. We handle it day by day. By the time an individual is old enough to get a job, he/she should KNOW methods to make change. In case you are a restaurant proprietor and a customer comes in (during hours) and gets turned away because the clerk did not have sufficient knowledge to say to herself, okay go forward seat the customer and later take her a receipt, even if it is a hand written one or higher yet, give the shopper a free meal due for her inconvience. PLEASE don’t tell me that devil is just not in the home!!!!!!!!!!!!!His job is to spread doubt in any method he can. Open your eyes to what’s being stated.
Bad people have at all times existed on the planet and so have good people. To place the blame on an imaginary being isn’t being honest with your self. Animals catch ailments the identical as man! Does this mean they are being tempted by Devil? In fact not, it is just simpler for some to place the blame on gremlins when issues go flawed and give credit score to the gods once they don’t.
Stuff happens, or else every part can be perfect and boring as hell! Know-how can be utilized for good or bad purposes, Satan has no say in both situation!
Oh my GOD!
You scare me.
Ummm….unsure what to say, exactly. Power cuts can mean that tills can’t be used and won’t open. Plus, in such cirumstances, one does not know how lengthy it can take for the issue to be mounted – maybe not for several hours.
Trust me, employees are usually perfectly able to including up, yet fashionable registers nonetheless require the exact info to be entered. Until rolls are additionally used for stock taking, not just for receipts – they store info of all the pieces that has been bought. The most common cause for a money register to be down is due to loss of power, and in these circumstances credit/debit playing cards can’t be used both. I believe it has very little to do with Devil…..
wilderness posted 11 years agoin reply to this
I agree with all the pieces you say besides that employees are often capable of adding up. I discover only a few workers that may make change for a $19.seventy seven cost when given $20.02. At finest they may return it from a $20 bill. No, too many cannot add it up.
Oh, well I’m just speaking from private expertise as a person who once labored within the industry and might add up – maybe that’s as a result of after I first began working money registers have been very much simpler and also you have been a bit misplaced in the event you couldn’t do mental arrithmetic!!
wilderness posted eleven years agoin reply to this
Yes, me too. I worked at a fuel station in the 60’s that had about 500 buttons on it, however did not give the change amount. Only a few credit cards – everything in cash (good customers solely they usually typically wanted “change” from the verify) and you higher be able to make change!
Heck, I feel most excessive colleges now enable calculators or even computer systems on arithmetic assessments. No surprise the youngsters can’t add anymore!
earnestshub posted 11 years agoin reply to this
All the children I know have literacy levels means above the earlier technology. it should be a local issue.
I have by no means seen better educated or extra well rounded children than the current bunch.
Nope, Earnest! It’s unhappy to say but American youngsters, for probably the most part, are not being educated within the method they once had been!
Remember the sooner posts by one among our educators? Nuff sed!
mom101 posted 11 years agoin reply to this
randy, you are so proper on that. It is unhappy. With the know-how of at the moment, there isn’t any reason a trainer cannot teach the class
That is since you’re in Australia.
Completely different story over right here with reference to schooling. Sad story within the States specifically relating to training.
I must say, in my life I’ve lived without electrical energy, running water or any fashionable consolation in any respect and I now live a totally techno life within the city.
Easy truth is that people adapt to no matter circumstances they find themselves and it is just people that cannot adapt that may face problems if the world all of the sudden adjustments.
There are many, many people on this planet who live fairly comfortably without expertise in any respect. Nevertheless, what city individuals call ‘survival abilities’ are definitely issues we must always all study.
These abilities must be taught in class and never forgotten. In spite of everything, it might solely take a month at most to teach this invaluable information.
In order for expertise being evil. Nope, do not imagine that however in case you do then merely change your life, go off-grid and don’t dwell in a spot that depends so heavily on expertise.
I do know numerous individuals residing off-grid in North America who never give technology a second thought.
Just my opinion.
mom101 posted eleven years agoin reply to this
rfox, I agree completely with you that survival skill must be taught. I believe it must be a course that’s required to have been handed earlier than anybody can get their drivers license.
The one drawback with that’s, most or many of todays teachers are barely out of faculty themselves and are of the brand new technology. My point, how can they train something they don’t have any clue of?
Beelzedad posted 11 years agoin reply to this
If I open my eyes to what you’re saying, I’d assume the yr is 201.
Retarded, not humorous.
I feel I get your point.
I am going to leave you to your affliction now.
Goodday.
hey thanks. Only I am not troubled. Simply awake.
Is that trident really digital and plugged into the flames?
Maybe?
Shadesbreath posted eleven years in the past
As with all “evil,” when governments overstep their bounds, the populations throw them off. Granted there are often a long time and even centuries of opression, however they finish, as always. There is not any Devil about it. It is just people and tools by which power is obtained. From sharp sticks to info technology and all the mechansism in between. Nothing ever changes but the tool.
Devil is the excuse some will make for why they do not really do something about stuff they do not like. A lot easier to take a seat on the couch and lament that old Devil operating round being imply. “Gee, Ma, not a lot we can do ’bout it. I reckon ole Devil is simply too highly effective fer us. Jus’ gonna have ta sit here and bitch about it and pray ta God ter save us.”
paarsurrey posted 11 years ago
Know-how is for good thing about the humanity; it’s its misuse that makes it dangerous.
We should pray that the people being with the fashionable technology they have; while morals on the decline, might not destroy the human race off the globe.
Paul is dead…Paul is useless….! Ring any bells for you folks?
Of course he’s useless why else would he be barefoot?
Rattling Jim! Are you that previous?
SomewayOuttaHere posted eleven years in the past.effectively…we could simply look at how ‘grocery shops’ are “Satan’s manner of destroying the world”…we depend on them…what in the event that they shut?
What if?
What if?
What if?
Thanks, “Glad”.
I ain’t afraid of no ghosts. There’s one thing to be mentioned for coming from the Captain Kangaroo era.
Surely it can’t be that dangerous across the whole USA?
dutchman1951 posted 11 years agoin reply to this
not good in a variety of cities Earnest, to many social engineers interfearing with so known as effectively meant training plans, instead of letting and demanding Academics be lecturers, and not social administrators.
They go by state aproved exams to measure progress, and the system has turned to instructing a take a look at, not educating how.
The thought is popping into-“Get em by way of the take a look at, and on to next grade”, That approach you get more Monies for the college district since you handed more Youngsters Doesn’t matter in the event that they can not learn or do math, they handed the state Check, ie..Unions get raises for lecturers and School district prospers. its a awful formula, that’s not working.
After several years of it now, The Children are loosing curiosity at Excessive School degree, and thus they show up but be taught nothing.
You could have a fantastic climate for training in OZ, and fogeys may be mother and father there. if you try that right here, they name it abuse! The Kids understand it, and push it.
it isn’t all of the Children, however the numbers are rising.
That is heartbreaking! How lengthy has it been like this?
It has gotten worse since Dubya was elected! The US followed the Texas example of educating the kids to go assessments as a substitute of really studying what the solutions mean! Our school books are even corrupted with creationism in some states! It is a tragedy, in fact!
earnestshub posted eleven years agoin reply to this
I had no concept it had gotten that unhealthy. I hope it modifications quickly!
We do not enable creationism in our lecture rooms fortunately.
We’ve great schools here, and I thought you did too! A tragic lesson for me to learn.
cosetteposted 11 years in the past
to the OP, do you really, actually suppose an evil supernatural entity is methodically and sneakily destroying the world with applied sciences? then why are you using that very technology to kind your publish? should not you throw away your laptop and other ‘tools of the Devil’? it appears to me that might make you an accessory. additionally, you acknowledged that know-how destroys more jobs than it creates. what number of jobs have been created in the telecommunications industries, laptop (software, hardware, firmware), POS terminals, automobile technicians (new computerized programs), robotics to build and assemble new autos, satellite networks, not to point out jobs to handle the infrastructure that support new technologies. as soon as upon a time people have been afraid of the phone and the telegraph, saying the identical factor you probably did, that these items had been the devil’s instruments. anyway if you happen to imagine this you had better do away with your laptop because you are in cahoots with Devil.
Amie Warrenposted eleven years agoin reply to this
I do know you do not want to read the entire thread, however I mentioned there is a quote by someone to the impact that “technology is Satan’s approach of destroying the world.” That’s all I mean by it. You clearly did not learn the whole unique publish.
Don’t you just hate individuals who do not read the fabric, then ask all the incorrect questions, and give all the incorrect answers? I do.
Mankind controls expertise. Mankind created it. Mankind is combined with good and dangerous. Nobody is an exception. We’re all both good and bad. Subsequently, expertise goes to be used for good and for unhealthy, similar to some other factor on the planet. The risk is man’s ego, not a supposed Devil. When man will tame his voracious ego, then there might be much less conflict.
If you’re afraid that Devil has management of technology, then just think about if expertise had a whole meltdown and see how that will play out in your life. I feel you’d discover much more drawbacks than advantages. Going back to the stone age isn’t essentially higher for mankind.
Its humorous how u r blaming Know-how with the help of internet expertise. Try living with out it (Expertise), u will perceive who’s evil & who’s bliss…
Amie Warrenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
I’ve lived with out technology. I used to be raised within the bayous of Louisiana, with no electrical energy and no running water. We hunted for or grew most of our food. I didn’t have a cell phone, laptop computer, and even t.v. We frolicked together, played music, danced, sang and played video games. We enjoyed life, and fact be told, I used to be loads happier than I am now.
Childhoods & teenage lifetimes are supposed to be happier no matter how exhausting they had been. Besides some unfortunate people, all of us miss those good previous times nevertheless it has nothing to do with Technology. Its humorous that how we thank God for every part good that occurs to our life however we never thank Edison or Tesla for inventing electricity, we never thank Louis Pasteur for inventing the primary life saving vaccine…fairly we give credit to God which ought to have been given to them. Its simply ungratefulness at its decide!
Individuals who blame technology is just ungrateful to human marvels & civilization. I dont wish to be rude but when they think its the foundation of all downside then they need to leave away from civilization.
paarsurrey posted eleven years agoin reply to this
We thank the Creator-God Allah YHWH and all these great individuals who served humanity.
yeah…ryt…what number of threads have u posted on science or on these nice persons? What number of occasions u showed ur gratification to these individuals on ur thread in opposition to ur gratification to mohammad or allah? I cant remember a single publish of urs. Dont pretend to be someone u r not!
sandra rinckposted eleven years in the past
OmFG! The title is hilarious. On a severe word, no, expertise is just not Satan’s approach of destroying the world. I actually do believe, however, that excessiveness is. Adulatory behavior ought to be considered a crime.
BDazzler posted eleven years agoin reply to this
Looking at this historically, this is an previous, outdated idea, not essentially “wrong” however old.
Think about Genesis 4 from a strictly “epoch literature” view point:
Observe the development.. cities and livestock centers, then manufactured instruments and then metallurgy..
Based mostly on these tales, Cain was a murder and the father of urbanization and technology.
Do what you will with it, it is an outdated, outdated belief and an outdated, previous story.
sandra rinckposted eleven years agoin reply to this
How did that have something to do with what I wrote?
I used to be talking about excessiveness and adulation.
BDazzler posted eleven years agoin reply to this
It had to do with the primary part..
I used to be saying that humorous or not the “expertise is evil” idea has been around a very very long time.
I believe Devil is behind de-caf espresso, low cost trash bags, and Black Widow spiders on grapes.
LOL
SomewayOuttaHere posted 11 years in the past.styro foam and plastic too…..it’s taking on and does not break down….
“please allow me to introduce myself….what’s puzzling you is the character of my sport…”
And that is what they stated concerning the printing press.
and Elvis too.
mom101 posted 11 years agoin reply to this
Hey now you hold on right there. You just maintain Elvis out of this
Hey – I by no means stated it. I was a kid. However, “they” stated it. You gotta pay at the least somewhat attention when “they” say something.
I didn’t know Bill Gates was devil.
I am Satan to my own LAPTOP. I simply made it unresponsive! A lot for technology being the one that’s Satan, right?
I have owned a number of computer systems that had satan in them.
For example (true) I mounted my grandson’s pc an hour ago. I seemed inside it and apparently just frightened the bugger off!
I have no different explanation for why it is now working.
I positive hope that is what happens to mine, but I pretty much doubt it.
earnestshub posted 11 years agoin reply to this
Lisa are you able to help me? I believe I should have misplaced the plot.
I simply reported a spammer who’s not here.
Did you occur to see it to verify? Or am I going nuts?
I see this publish, and I see my final publish (and, whew! “praise be to God! My PC magically mounted itself!!
) ‘Then I saw your spammer poem (cute, by the way). That is all I see.
OKAY………… now I am somewhat scared!
time to talk to a seasoned adviser. I’m off to speak to Asha the older twin.
Since they turned 5 she reminds me of the little lady in “The Adams family” I take any serious mental points I have to her.
Believe it or not, there have been computers earlier than Invoice Gates.
)
Software? It takes satan herself to fix them bugs!
(Got nothing but the black display, no booting up, no lights – nothing. I used to be not quick sufficient to replace an Adobe thing.
Oh well…. all fastened now. I LIKE technology.
)
earnestshub posted eleven years agoin reply to this
I really do love technology, but computer systems are electronics and all these electrons can behave badly on the slightest provocation.
This factor (I realized in all my emergency looking out) is an Adobe thing that says it’s good to replace. It says there’s an error and asks if you wish to maintain running/give up – whatever. Apparently, whatever you click on leads to the machine changing into unresponsive.
Live and learn…
earnestshub posted eleven years agoin reply to this
Adobe is buggy. It all the time was. I tremble when the updates arrive.
Glad I’m not the only one. That’s one reason I maintain ignoring the “notices” about updates.
mom101 posted eleven years agoin reply to this
earnest, read your profile, shocked to see you work on vehicles.
mom101 posted 11 years agoin reply to this
Simply from studying your post. If I needed to outline you, from what I have learn, I would have mentioned many things, not mechanic.
Are you an excellent mechanic? Too dangerous you aren’t here, I would send my ride your means.
earnestshub posted 11 years agoin reply to this
I don’t work on automobiles myself, I’ve owned and operated several very profitable automotive companies, including designing mechanical components for racing and street use.
I am a mechanical engineer, not a motor mechanic.
You might discover sort casting is a bit troublesome with me, I have many and diversified skills as most enterprise people do I assume.
mom101 posted eleven years agoin reply to this
Racing fan I see? I’ve associates that own a race monitor. nicely, they’re associates of a good friend.
Please bear in mind, I’m in the nation. No offense intended.
Type casting. I received you. Enterprise people, mercy. I have been self employed for many of my life.
My skills are with glass. I owned/operated an auto glass firm from eighty three til 04 and closed it when my parents handed. Being self employed is sort of a marriage.
paarsurrey posted 11 years ago
Know-how is nice for the human being; solely its misuse makes it unhealthy.
Do you not agree that over-dependence on something is bad?
Yep, an excessive amount of of anything is usually a bad factor….
Got to studying the post here. Numerous totally different views. I’ve a question. That country the place the pyramids are, do you think they have been as advanced in expertise as we’re, much less superior or more superior? Just curious.
I believe they, and the folks who lived within the time of the Roman Empire, had been proof of what individuals can do with out the technology we have in the present day. They had been also, nonetheless, proof of the truth that some issues can’t be completed or understood without the technology we have now today. Science is something that has been built on what has been recognized/learned before, and I believe as issues associated with technology come up, it is on these points that mankind will learn better the right way to handle and use know-how.
They didn’t have the sort of information that advanced science and know-how has allowed us to have at present; however I think the pyramids are an example of how resourceful and clever humans may be regardless of the time by which they reside. In other phrases, we lived without know-how up to now, and we may reside without it once more (after some adjusting to a return to the previous). I don’t think it is honest to try to compare individuals who did not take pleasure in what we now have since realized with folks as we speak, or vice versa. Having stated that, contemplating what the pyramids can do, and contemplating what technology can do, I’d say, usually, expertise is more superior than even essentially the most intriguing and impressive pyramids.
Afrotech posted eleven years in the past
I disagree…. Anything can turn out to be dangerous if it is misused. Know-how has helped us in many ways over time, and made life just a little bit simpler for the people who benefit from it.
earnestshub posted 11 years in the past
For me being self employed began very young. I lived my desires, and made massive money doing it.
owning my very own businesses for me meant taking a few months off whenever I felt the necessity. I learnt to delegate very early in my enterprise life.
I had a mentor, all the time a good suggestion in enterprise.
My life has been one long buzz always doing whatever I wanted to do even after I was poor.
I’ve had cancer and all types of losses alongside the way in which, together with my stunning daughter-inlaw in the previous couple of years however I see that as par for the course, why shouldn’t I get most cancers or lose family members? I’m not particular.
I reckon it is how you look at life. I just love being alive!
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